The Law of One, Book IV, Session 86

Questioner: Perhaps you could give examples of the use of the body prior to veiling and after the veiling in the same aspect to help us understand the change in knowledge of and control over the body more clearly. 

Could you do this, please?

Ra: I am Ra. We could.

Questioner: Will you do this?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes. 

Let us deal with the sexual energy transfer. 

Before the veiling 
such a transfer was always possible due to there being no shadow upon the grasp of the nature of the body and its relationship to other mind/body/spirits in this particular manifestation.

Before the veiling process there was a near total lack of the use of this sexual energy transfer beyond green ray.

This also was due to the same unshadowed knowledge each had of each. 

There was, in third density then, 
little purpose to be seen in the more intensive relationships of mind, body, and spirit which you may call those of the mating process, since each other self was seen to be the Creator and no other-self seemed to be more the Creator than another.

After the veiling process 
it became infinitely more difficult to achieve green-ray energy transfer due to the great areas of mystery and unknowing concerning the body complex and its manifestations. 

However, also due to the great shadowing of the manifestations of the body from the conscious mind complex, when such energy transfer was experienced it was likelier to provide catalyst which caused a bonding of self with other-self in a properly polarized configuration.

From this point it was far more likely that higher energy transfers would be sought by this mated pair of mind/body/spirit complexes, thus allowing the Creator to know Itself with great beauty, solemnity, and wonder. 

Intelligent infinity having been reached by this sacramental use of this function of the body, each mind/body/spirit complex of the mated pair gained greatly in polarization and in ability to serve.

Questioner: Did any of the other aspects of loss of knowledge or control of the body approach, to any degree in efficiency, the description which you have just given?

Ra: I am Ra. Each function of the body complex has some potential after the veiling to provide helpful catalyst. 

We did choose the example of sexual energy transfer due to its central place in the functionary capabilities of the body complex made more useful by means of the veiling process.

This instrument grows somewhat low in energy. 

We would prefer to retain the maximal portion of reserved energy for which this instrument has given permission. 

We would, therefore, ask for one more full query at this working.

Questioner: I would assume that the veiling of the sexual aspect was of great efficiency because it is an aspect that has to do totally with a relationship with an other-self. 

It would seem to me that the bodily veilings having to do with other-self interaction would be more efficient when compared with those only related to self, which would be lower in efficiency in producing either positive or negative polarization. 

Am I correct in this assumption?

Ra: I am Ra. You are correct to a great extent. 

Perhaps the most notable exception is the attitude of one already strongly polarized negatively towards the appearance of the body complex. 

There are those entities upon the negative path which take great care in the preservation of the distortion your peoples perceive as fairness/ugliness. 

This fairness of form is, of course, then used in order to manipulate other-selves.

May we ask if there are any brief queries?

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 87

Questioner: Thank you. We will make the corrections⁶.

In the last session you made the statement that before the veiling, sexual energy transfer was always possible.

I would like to know what you meant by “it was always possible” and why it was not always possible after the veiling, just to clear up that point?

Ra: I am Ra. We believe that we grasp your query and will use the analogy in your culture of the battery which lights the flashlight bulb.

Two working batteries placed in series always offer the potential of the bulb’s illumination.

After the veiling, to continue this gross analogy, the two batteries being placed not in series would then offer no possible illumination of the bulb.

Many mind/body/spirit complexes after the veiling have, through blockages, done the equivalent of reversing the battery.

⁶ The text was corrected before publishing and now reads as it should.

Questioner: What was the primary source of the blockages that caused the battery reversal?

Ra: I am Ra. Please query more specifically as to the mind/body/spirits or mind/body/spirit complexes about which you request information.

Questioner: Before the veil there was knowledge of the bulb-lighting technique, shall we say.

After the veil some experiments created a bulb lighting; some resulted in no bulb lighting.

Other than the fact that information was not available on methods of lighting the bulb, was there some root cause of the experiments that resulted in no bulb lighting?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: What was this root cause?

Ra: I am Ra. The root cause of blockage is the lack of the ability to see the other-self as the Creator, or to phrase this differently, the lack of love.

Questioner: In our particular illusion the sexual potential for the male seems to peak somewhere prior to the age twenty and the female’s peak is some ten years later.

What is the cause of this difference in peaking sexual energy?

Ra: I am Ra. We must make clear distinction between the yellow-ray, third-density, chemical bodily complex and the body complex which is a portion of the mind/body/spirit complex.

The male, as you call this polarity,
has an extremely active yellow-ray desire at the space/time in its incarnation when its sperm is the most viable and full of the life-giving spermato.

Thusly the red ray seeks to reproduce most thickly at the time when this body is most able to fulfill the red-ray requirements.

The yellow-ray, chemical body complex of the female, as you call this polarity,
must needs have a continued and increasing desire for the sexual intercourse for it can only conceive once in one fifteen to eighteen month period, given that it carries the conceived body complex, bears it, and suckles it.

This is draining to the physical body of yellow ray.

To compensate for this the desire increases so that the yellow-ray body is predisposed to continue in sexual congress, thus fulfilling its red-ray requirement to reproduce as thickly as possible.

The more, shall we say, integral sexuality or polarity of the body complex, which is a portion of the mind/body/spirit complex, does not concern itself with these yellow-ray manifestations but rather follows the ways of the seeking of energy transfer and the furthering of aid and service to others or to the self.

Questioner: In addition, why is the ratio of male to female orgasms so heavily loaded on the side of the male?

Ra: I am Ra. We refer now to the yellow-ray, physical body or, if you will, body complex.

At this level the distinction is unimportant.

The male orgasm
which motivates the sperm forward to meet its ovum is essential for the completion of the red-ray desire to propagate the species.

The female orgasm
is unnecessary. Again, as mind/body/spirit complexes begin to use the sexual energy transfer to learn, to serve, and to glorify the one infinite Creator the function of the female orgasm becomes more clear.

Questioner: What was this ratio before the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. The ratio of male to female orgasms before the veil was closer to one-to-one by a great deal as the metaphysical value of the female orgasm was clear and without shadow.

Questioner: Is it meaningful to give this ratio in early fourth density and, if so, would you do that?

Ra: I am Ra. In many ways it is quite meaningless to speak of orgasm of male and female in higher densities as the character and nature of orgasm becomes more and more naturally a function of the mind/body/spirit complex as an unit.

It may be said that the veil in fourth density is lifted and the choice has been made.

In positive polarities true sharing is almost universal.

In negative polarities true blockage so that the conqueror obtains orgasm, the conquered almost never, is almost universal.

In each case you may see the function of the sexual portion of experience as being a most efficient means of polarization.

Questioner: In our illusion we have physical definitions for possible transfers of energy.

We label them as the conversion of potential to kinetic or kinetic to heat and examine this with respect to the increasing entropy.

When we speak of sexual energy transfers and other more basic forms of energy I am always at a loss to properly use, you might say, the terms since I am not understanding—and possibly can’t understand—the basic form of energy that we speak of.

However, I intuit that this is the energy of pure vibration; that is, at the basic level of our illusion, that vibration between the space and time portion of the space/time continuum and yet somehow is transferred into our illusion in a more basic form than that.

Could you expand on this area for me, please?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

Questioner: Would you do that?

Ra: I am Ra. You are correct in assuming that the energy of which we speak in discussing sexual energy transfers is a form of vibratory bridge between space/time and time/space.

Although this distinction is not apart from that which follows, that which follows may shed light upon that basic statement.

Due to the veiling process
the energy transferred from male to female is different than that transferred from female to male.

Due to the polarity difference
of the mind/body/spirit complexes of male and female
the male stores physical energy,
the female mental and mental/emotional energy.

When third-density sexual energy transfer is completed
the male will have offered the discharge of physical energy.

The female is,
thereby, refreshed, having far less physical vitality.

At the same time, if you will use this term, the female discharges the efflux of its stored mental and mental/emotional energy, thereby offering inspiration, healing, and blessing to the male which by nature is less vital in this area.

At this time may we ask for one more full query.

Questioner: Why is the male and the female nature different?

Ra: I am Ra.
When the veiling process was accomplished,
to the male polarity was attracted the Matrix of the Mind and
to the female, the Potentiator of the Mind,
to the male the Potentiator of the Body,
to the female the Matrix of the Body.

May we ask if there are any brief queries before we close this working?

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 94

Questioner: From the previous session the statement was made that much is veiled to the most apparently clear observation.

Would Ra expand on what was meant by that statement?

I assume that this means the veiling of all that which is outside of the limits of what we call our physical perception having to do with the spectrum of light, etc., but I also intuit that there is more than that veiled.

Would Ra expand on that concept?

Ra: I am Ra. You are perceptive in your supposition.

Indeed, we meant not any suggestions that the physical apparatus of your current illusion was limited as part of the veiling process.

Your physical limits are as they are.

However, because of the unique biases of each mind/body/spirit complex there are sometimes quite simple instances of distortion when there is no apparent cause for such distortion.

Let us use the example of the virile and immature male
who meets and speaks clearly with a young female whose physical form has the appropriate configuration to cause, for this male entity, the activation of the red-ray sexual arousal.

The words spoken may be upon a simple subject such as naming, information as to the occupation, and various other common interchanges of sound vibratory complex.

The male entity,
however, is using almost all the available consciousness it possesses in registering the desirability of the female.

Such may also be true of the female.

Thusly an entire exchange of information may be meaningless because the actual catalyst is of the body.

This is unconsciously controlled and is not a conscious decision.

This example is simplistic.

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 95

Questioner: Thank you.

In the last session you indicated in the statement about the immature male meeting the immature female that the information exchanged was quite different with respect to what occurred because of the veil.

Would you give an example of the information exchange prior to the veil for the same case?

Ra: I am Ra. Given this same case; that is, the random red-ray sexual arousal being activated in both male and female, the communication would far more likely have been to the subject of the satisfying of that red-ray, sexual impulse.

When this had occurred other information such as the naming could be offered with clear perception.

It is to be noted that the catalyst which may be processed by the pre-veil experience is insignificant compared to the catalyst offered to the thoroughly bemused male and female after the veil.

The confusion which this situation, simplistic though it is, offers is representative of the efficiency of the enlargement of the catalytic processes occurring after the veiling.

Questioner: For the condition of meeting after the veiling process, either entity will choose, as a function of its previous biases or Card Four, the experience and the way in which it will handle the situation with respect to polarity, therefore probably producing more catalyst for itself along the chosen path of polarization.

Would Ra comment on this statement?

Ra: I am Ra. This statement is correct.

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 99

Questioner: In that case I will just ask this short question as we terminate this session. 

I want to know if the Logos of this system planned for the mating process as possibly depicted in Card Six—I don’t know if this is related to some type of DNA imprinting. 

In many second-density creatures there seems to be some sort of imprinting that creates a lifetime mating relationship and I was wondering if this was also carried into third density?

Ra: I am Ra. There are some of your second-density fauna which have instinctually imprinted monogamous mating processes. 

The third-density physical vehicle which is the basic incarnational tool of manifestation upon your planet arose from entities thusly imprinted, all the aforesaid being designed by the Logos.

The free will of third-density entities is far stronger than the rather mild carryover from second-density DNA encoding and it is not part of the conscious nature of many of your mind/body/spirit complexes to be monogamous due to the exercise of free will.

However, as has been noted there are many signposts in the deep mind indicating to the alert adept the more efficient use of catalyst. 

As we have said, the Logos of your peoples has a bias towards kindness.

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 79

Questioner: I would like to question about the third-density experience of those entities just prior to the original extension of the first distortion to the sub-Logoi to create the split of polarity. 

Can you describe, in general, the differences between the third density experience of these mind/body/spirits and the ones who have evolved upon this planet now?

Ra: I am Ra. This material has been previously covered. 

Please query for specific interest.

Questioner: Specifically, in the experience where only the service-to-others polarity in third density evolved, was the veil that was drawn with respect to knowledge of previous incarnations, etc., in effect for those entities?

Ra: I am Ra. No.

Questioner: Was the reincarnational process like the one that we experience here in which the third-density body is entered and exited numerous times during the cycle?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: Is it possible to give a time of incarnation with respect to our years and would you do so if it is?

Ra: I am Ra. The optimal incarnative period is somewhere close to a measure you call a millennium. 

This is, as you may say, a constant regardless of other factors of the third-density experience.

Questioner: Then prior to the first extension of the first distortion the veil or loss of awareness did not occur. 

From this I will make the assumption that this veil or loss of remembering consciously that which occurred before the incarnation was the primary tool for extending the first distortion. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Your correctness is limited. 

This was the first tool.

Questioner: Then from that statement I assume that the Logos first devised the tool of separating the unconscious from the conscious during what we call physical incarnations to achieve its objective? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

Questioner: Then from that statement I would also assume that many other tools were conceived and used after the first tool of the so-called veil. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. There have been refinements.

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 82

Questioner: Specifically, I am trying to grasp an understanding of the process of experience in third density before the veil so that I can better understand the present process.

As I understand, it the mind/body/spirits went through the process of what we call physical incarnation in this density but there was no forgetting.

What was the benefit or purpose of the physical incarnation when there was no forgetting?

Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of incarnation in third density is to learn the ways of love.

Questioner: I guess I didn’t state that exactly right.

What I mean is, since there was no forgetting, since the mind/body/spirits had, in what we call the physical incarnation, their full consciousness, they knew the same thing that they would know while not in the physical incarnation.

What was the mechanism of teaching that taught the ways of love in the third-density physical prior to the forgetting process?

Ra: I am Ra. We ask your permission to answer this query in an oblique fashion as we perceive an area in which we might be of aid.

Questioner: Certainly.

Ra: I am Ra. Your queries seem to be pursuing the possibility/probability that the mechanisms of experience in third density are different if a mind/body/spirit is attempting them rather than a mind/body/spirit complex.

The nature of third density is constant.

Its ways are to be learned the same now and ever.

Thusly, no matter what form the entity facing these lessons, the lessons and mechanisms are the same.

The Creator will learn from Itself.

Each entity has unmanifest portions of learning and, most importantly, learning which is involved with other-selves.

Questioner: Then prior to the forgetting process there was no concept of anything but service-to-others polarization.

What sort of societies and experiences in third-density were created and evolved in this condition?

Ra: I am Ra. It is our perception that such conditions created the situation of a most pallid experiential nexus in which lessons were garnered with the relative speed of the turtle to the cheetah.

Questioner: Did such societies evolve with technologies of a complex nature, or did they remain quite simple?

Can you give me a general idea of the evolvement that would be a function of what we would call intellectual activity?

Ra: I am Ra. There is infinite diversity in societies under any circumstances.

There were many highly technologically advanced societies which grew due to the ease of producing any desired result.

When one dwells within what might be seen to be a state of constant potential inspiration, that which even the most highly sophisticated, in your terms, societal structure lacked, given the noncomplex nature of its entities, was what you might call will or, to use a more plebeian term, gusto, or élan vital.

Questioner: Did such technological societies evolve travel through what we call space to other planets or other planetary systems?

Did some of them do this?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: Then even though, from our point of view, there was great evolutionary experience it was deemed at some point by the evolving Logos that an experiment to create a greater experience was appropriate.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct and may benefit from comment.

The Logos is aware of the nature of the third-density requirement for what you have called graduation.

All the previous, if you would use this term, experiments, although resulting in many experiences, lacked what was considered the crucial ingredient; that is, polarization.

There was little enough tendency for experience to polarize entities that entities repeated habitually the third-density cycles many times over.

It was desired that the potential for polarization be made more available.

Questioner: Then since the only possibility at this particular time, as I see it, was a polarization for service to others, I must assume from what you said that even though all were aware of this service-to-others necessity they were unable to achieve it.

What was the configuration of mind of the mind/body/spirits at that time?

Why did they have such a difficult time serving others to the extent necessary for graduation since this was the only polarity possible?

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the tendency of those who are divinely happy, as you call this distortion, to have little urge to alter or better their condition.

Such is the result of the mind/body/spirit which is not complex.

There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self.

The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord.

The security is total.

Therefore,
no love is terribly important;
no pain terribly frightening; 
no effort,

therefore,
is made to serve for love or to benefit from fear.

Questioner: It seems that you might make an analogy in our present illusion of those who are born into extreme wealth and security.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Within the strict bounds of the simile, you are perceptive.

Questioner: We have presently an activity between physical incarnations called the healing and review of the incarnation.

Was anything of this nature occurring prior to the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. The inchoate structure of this process was always in place, but where there has been no harm there need be no healing.

This too may be seen to have been of concern to Logoi which were aware that without the need to understand, understanding would forever be left undone.

We ask your forgiveness for the use of this misnomer, but your language has a paucity of sound vibration complexes for this general concept.

Questioner: I don’t grasp too well the condition of incarnation and the time in between incarnations prior to the veil.

I do not understand what was the difference other than the manifestation of the third-density, yellowray body.

Was there any mental difference upon what we call death?

I don’t see the necessity for what we call the review of the incarnation if the consciousness was uninterrupted.

Could you clear up that point for me?

Ra: I am Ra. No portion of the Creator audits the course, to use your experiential terms.

Each incarnation is intended to be a course in the Creator knowing Itself.

A review or, shall we say, to continue the metaphor, each test is an integral portion of the process of the Creator knowing Itself. 

Each incarnation will end with such a test.

This is so that the portion of the Creator
may assimilate the experiences in yellow, physical, third density, 
may evaluate the biases gained, and
may then choose, either by means of automatically provided aid or by the self, the conditions of the next incarnation.

Questioner: Before the veil, during the review of the incarnation, were the entities at that time aware that what they were trying to do was sufficiently polarize for graduation?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: Then I am assuming that this awareness was somehow reduced as they went into the yellow ray third-density incarnative state even though there was no veil.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is distinctly incorrect.

Questioner: OK. This is the central important point.

It seems to me that if polarization was the obvious thing that more effort would have been put forward to polarize.

Let me see if I can state this differently.

Before the veil there was an awareness of the need for polarization towards service to others in third density by all entities, whether incarnate in third-density, yellowray bodies or in between incarnations.

I assume, then, that the condition of which we earlier spoke, one of wealth you might say, was present through the entire spectrum of experience whether it might be between incarnations or during incarnations and the entities just simply could not manifest the desire to create this polarization necessary for graduation.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You begin to grasp the situation.

Let us continue the metaphor of the schooling but consider the scholar as being an entity in your younger years of the schooling process.

The entity is fed, clothed, and protected regardless of whether or not the schoolwork is accomplished.

Therefore, the entity does not do the homework but rather enjoys playtime, mealtime, and vacation.

It is not until there is a reason to wish to excel that most entities will attempt to excel.

Questioner: You have stated in a much earlier session that it is necessary to polarize more than 50% service-to-others to be harvestable fourth-density positive.

Was this condition the same at the time before the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

The query is not answered easily, for the concept of service to self did not hold sway previous to what we have been calling the veiling process.

The necessity for graduation to fourth density is an ability to use, welcome, and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the one infinite Creator.

In your own terms at your space/time nexus
this ability may be measured by your previously stated percentages of service.

Prior to the veiling process
the measurement would be that of an entity walking up a set of your stairs, each of which was imbued with a certain quality of light.

The stair upon which an entity stopped would be either third-density light or fourth-density light.

Between the two stairs lies the threshold.

To cross that threshold is difficult.
There is resistance at the edge, shall we say, of each density.

The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density.

Those entities which do not do their homework, be they ever so amiable, shall not cross.

It was this situation which faced the Logoi prior to the veiling process being introduced into the experiential continuum of third density.

May we ask if there are any brief queries at this working?

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 83

Questioner: Thank you.

I’m going to ask a rather long, complex question and I would request that the answer to each portion of this question be given if there was a significant difference prior to the veil than following the veil so that I can get an idea of how what we experience now is used for better polarization.

What was the difference before the veil in the following while incarnate in third density:
sleep,
dreams,
physical pain,
mental pain,
sex,
disease,
catalyst programming,
random catalyst,
relationships, and
communication with the higher self or
with the mind/body/spirit totality or
any other mind, body, or
spirit functions

before the veil that would be significant with respect to their difference after the veil?

Ra: I am Ra.

Firstly,
let us establish that both before and after the veil the same conditions existed in time/space; that is, the veiling process is a space/time phenomenon.

Secondly,
the character of experience was altered drastically by the veiling process.

In some cases such as

the dreaming and the contact with the higher self,
the experience was quantitatively different due to the fact that the veiling is a primary cause of the value of dreams and is also the single door against which the higher self must stand awaiting entry.

Before veiling,
dreams were not for the purpose of using the so-called unconscious to further utilize catalyst but were used to learn/teach from teach/learners within the inner planes as well as those of outer origins of higher density.

As you deal with each subject of which you spoke you may observe, during the veiling process, not a quantitative change in the experience but a qualitative one.

Let us, as an example, choose your sexual activities of energy transfer.

If you have a desire to treat other subjects in detail please query forthwith.

In the instance of the sexual activity of those not dwelling within the veiling each activity was a transfer.
There were some transfers of strength.

Most were rather attenuated in the strength of the transfer due to the lack of veiling.

In the third density entities are attempting to learn the ways of love.
If it can be seen that all are one being it becomes much more difficult for the undisciplined personality to choose one mate and, thereby, initiate itself into a program of service.

It is much more likely that the sexual energy will be dissipated more randomly without either great joy or great sorrow depending from these experiences.

Therefore, the green-ray energy transfer,
being almost without exception the case in sexual energy transfer prior to veiling, remains weakened and without significant crystallization.

The sexual energy transfers and blockages after veiling have been discussed previously.
It may be seen to be a more complex study but one far more efficient in crystallizing those who seek the green-ray energy center.

Questioner: Let’s take, then, since we are on the subject of sex, the relationship before and after the veil of disease, in this particular case venereal disease.

Was this type of disease in existence prior to the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. There has been that which is called disease, both of this type and others, before and after this great experiment.

However, since the venereal disease is in large part a function of the thought-forms of a distorted nature which are associated with sexual energy blockage the venereal disease is almost entirely the product of mind/body/spirit complexes’ interaction after the veiling.

Questioner: You mentioned that it existed in a small way prior to the veil.

What was the source of its development prior to the veiling process?

Ra: I am Ra. The source was as random as the nature of disease distortions are, at heart, in general.

Each portion of the body complex is in a state of growth at all times.
The reversal of this is seen as disease and has the benign function of ending an incarnation at the appropriate space/time nexus.

This was the nature of disease, including that which you call venereal.

Questioner: I’ll make this statement and you can correct me.

As I see the nature of the action of disease before the veil, it seems to me that the Logos had decided upon a program where an individual mind/body/spirit would continue to grow in mind and the body would be the third-density analog of this mind.

The growth would be continual unless there was an inability, for some reason, for the mind to continue along the growth patterns.

If this growth decelerated or stopped, what we call disease would then act in a way so as to eventually terminate this physical experience so that a new physical experience would be started, after a review of the entire process had taken place between incarnations.

Would you clear up my thinking on that, please?

Ra: I am Ra. Your thinking is sufficiently clear on this subject.

Questioner: The thing I don’t understand is why, if there was no veil, the review of the incarnation after the incarnation would help the process since it seems to me that the entity should already be aware of what was happening.

Possibly this has to do with the nature of space/time and time/space.

Could you clear that up, please?

Ra: I am Ra. It is true that the nature of time/space is such that a lifetime may be seen whole as a book or record, the pages studied, riffled through, and re-read.

However, the value of review is that of the testing as opposed to the studying.

At the testing,
when the test is true, the distillations of all study are made clear.

During the process of study, which you may call the incarnation,
regardless of an entity’s awareness of the process taking place, the material is diffused and over-attention is almost inevitably placed upon detail.

The testing upon the cessation of the incarnative state is not that testing which involves the correct memorization of many details.

This testing is, rather, the observing of self by self, often with aid as we have said.

In this observation one sees the sum of all the detailed study; that being an attitude or complex of attitudes which bias the consciousness of the mind/body/spirit.

Questioner: Now before the veil an entity would be aware that he was experiencing a disease.

As an analogy would you give me, if you are aware of a case, a disease an entity might experience prior to the veil and how he would react to this and think about it and what effect it would have on him?

Ra: I am Ra. Inasmuch as the universe is composed of an infinite array of entities, there is also an infinity of response to stimulus.

If you will observe your peoples you will discover greatly variant responses to the same distortion towards disease.

Consequently, we cannot answer your query with any hope of making any true statements since the over-generalizations required are too capacious.

Questioner: Was there any uniformity or like functions of societies or social organizations prior to the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. The third density is, by its very fiber, a societal one.

There are societies wherever there are entities conscious of the self and conscious of other-selves and possessed with intelligence adequate to process information indicating the benefits of communal blending of energies.

The structures of society before as after veiling were various.

However, the societies before veiling did not depend in any case upon the intentional enslavement of some for the benefit of others, this not being seen to be a possibility when all are seen as one.

There was, however, the requisite amount of disharmony to produce various experiments in what you may call governmental or societal structures.

Questioner: In our present illusion we have undoubtedly lost sight of the techniques of enslavement that are used since we are so far departed from the pre-veil experience.

I am sure that many of service-to-others orientation are using techniques of enslavement even though they are not aware that these are techniques of enslavement simply because they have been evolved over so long a period of time and we are so deep into the illusion.

Is this not correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect.

Questioner: Then you say that there are no cases where those who are of a service-to-others orientation are using techniques of enslavement that have grown as a result of the evolution of our social structures?

Is this what you mean?

Ra: I am Ra. It was our understanding that your query concerned conditions before the veiling.

There was no unconscious slavery, as you call this condition, at that period.

At the present space/time the conditions of well-meant and unintentional slavery are so numerous that it beggars our ability to enumerate them.

Questioner: Then for a service-to-others oriented entity at this time meditation upon the nature of these little-expected forms of slavery might be productive in polarization I would think.

Am I correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You are quite correct.

Questioner: I would say that a very high percentage of the laws and restrictions within what we call our legal system are of a nature of enslavement of which I just spoke.

Would you agree with this?

Ra: I am Ra. It is a necessary balance to the intention of law, which is to protect, that the result would encompass an equal distortion towards imprisonment.

Therefore, we may say that your supposition is correct.

This is not to denigrate those who, in green and blue-ray energies, sought to free a peaceable people from the bonds of chaos but only to point out the inevitable consequences of codification of response which does not recognize the uniqueness of each and every situation within your experience.

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 84

Questioner: Going back to the previous session, you stated that each sexual activity was a transfer before the veil.

Would you trace the flow of energy that is transferred and tell me if that was the planned activity or a planned transfer by the designing Logos?

Ra: I am Ra. The path of energy transfer before the veiling during the sexual intercourse was that of the two entities possessed of green-ray capability.

The awareness of all as Creator is that which opens the green energy center.

Thusly there was no possibility of blockage due to the sure knowledge of each by each that each was the Creator.

The transfers were weak due to the ease with which such transfers could take place between any two polarized entities during sexual intercourse.

Questioner: What I was getting at, precisely, was, for example, when we close an electrical circuit it is easy to trace the path of current.

It goes along the conductor.

I am trying to determine whether this transfer is between the green energy centers (the heart chakras).

I am trying to trace the physical flow of the energy to try to get an idea of blockages after the veil.

I may be off on the wrong track here, but if I am wrong we’ll just drop it.

Can you tell me something about that?

Ra: I am Ra. In such a drawing or schematic representation of the circuitry of two mind/body/spirits or mind/body/spirit complexes in sexual or other energy transfer

the circuit opens always at the red or base center and moves as possible through the intervening energy centers.
If baffled it will stop at orange.
If not, it shall proceed to yellow.
If still unbaffled it shall proceed to green.

It is well to remember in the case of the mind/body/spirit that the chakras or energy centers could well be functioning without crystallization. 

Questioner: In other words, they would be functioning but it would be equivalent in an electrical circuitry to having a high resistance, shall we say, and although the circuit would be complete, red through green, the total quantity of energy transferred would be less.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. We might most closely associate your query with the concept of voltage.

The uncrystallized, lower centers cannot deliver the higher voltage.

The crystallized centers may become quite remarkable in the high voltage characteristics of the energy transfer as it reaches green ray and indeed as green ray is crystallized this also applies to the higher energy centers until such energy transfers become an honestation⁴ for the Creator.

⁴ honestation: n. adornment; grace. [Obs.]

Questioner: Would you please correct me on this statement.

I am guessing that what happens is that when a transfer takes place the energy is that light energy that comes in through the feet of the entity and the voltage or potential difference is measured between the red energy center and, in the case of the green ray transfer, the green energy center and then must leap or flow from the green energy center of one entity to the green energy center of the other, and then something happens to it.

Could you clarify my thinking on that?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

Questioner: Would you please do that?

Ra: I am Ra. The energy transfer occurs in one releasing of the potential difference.

This does not leap between green and green energy centers but is the sharing of the energies of each from red ray upwards.

In this context it may be seen to be at its most efficient when both entities have orgasm simultaneously.

However, it functions as transfer if either has the orgasm and indeed in the case of the physically expressed love between a mated pair which does not have the conclusion you call orgasm there is, nonetheless, a considerable amount of energy transferred due to the potential difference which has been raised as long as both entities are aware of this potential and release its strength to each other by desire of the will in a mental or mind complex dedication.

You may see this practice as being used to generate energy transfers in some of your practices of what you may call other than Christian religious distortion systems of the Law of One.

Questioner: Could you give me an example of that last statement?

Ra: I am Ra. We preface this example with the reminder that each system is quite distorted and its teachings always half-lost.

However, one such system is that called the Tantric Yoga.

Questioner: Considering individual A and individual B,
if individual A experiences the orgasm
is the energy, then, transferred to individual B in a greater amount?

Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Your query is incomplete.

Please restate.

Questioner: I am trying to determine whether the direction of energy transfer is a function of orgasm.

Which entity gets the transferred energy?

I know it’s a dumb question, but I want to be sure that I have it cleared up.

Ra: I am Ra. If both entities are well polarized and vibrating in green-ray love any orgasm shall offer equal energy to both.

Questioner: I see. Before the veil can you describe any other physical difference that we haven’t talked about yet with respect to the sexual energy transfers or relationships or anything prior to veiling?

Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps the most critical difference of the veiling, before and after, was that before the mind, body, and spirit were veiled, entities were aware that each energy transfer and, indeed, very nearly all that proceeds from any intercourse, social or sexual, between two entities has its character and substance in time/space rather than space/time.

The energies transferred during the sexual activity are not, properly speaking, of space/ time.

There is a great component of what you may call metaphysical energy transferred.

Indeed, the body complex as a whole is greatly misunderstood due to the post-veiling assumption that the physical manifestation called the body is subject only to physical stimuli.

This is emphatically not so.

Questioner: After the veil, in our particular case now, we have, in the circuitry of which we were speaking, what you call blockages.

Could you describe what occurs with the first blockage and what its effects are on each of the entities assuming that one blocks and the other does not or if both are blocked?

Ra: I am Ra. This material has been covered previously.

If both entities are blocked
both will have an increased hunger for the same activity, seeking to unblock the baffled flow of energy.

If one entity is blocked and the other vibrates in love,
the entity baffled will hunger still but have a tendency to attempt to continue the procedure of satiating the increasing hunger with the one vibrating green ray due to an impression that this entity might prove helpful in this endeavor.

The green-ray active individual
shall polarize slightly in the direction of service to others but have only the energy with which it began.

Questioner: I didn’t mean to cover previously covered material.

What I was actually attempting to do was discover something new in asking the question, so please if I ask any questions in the future that have already been covered don’t bother to repeat the material.

I am just searching the same area for the possibility of greater enlightenment with respect to this particular area since it seems to be one of the major areas of experience in our present condition of veiling that produces a very large amount of catalyst and I am trying to understand, to use a poor term, how this veiling process created a greater experience and how this experience evolved.

These questions are very difficult to ask.

It occurs to me that many statues or drawings of the one known as Lucifer or the Devil are shown with an erection.

Is this a function of orange-ray blockage, and was this known in a minimal way by those who devised these statues and drawings?

Ra: I am Ra. There is, of course, much other distortion involved in a discussion of any mythic archetypical form.

However, we may answer in the affirmative and note that you are perceptive.

Questioner: With respect to the green, blue, and indigo transfers of energy, how would the mechanism for these transfers differ from the orange-ray mechanism in making them possible or setting the groundwork for them?

I know this is very difficult to ask and I may not be making any sense, but what I am trying to do is gain an understanding of the foundation for the transfers in each of the rays and the preparations for the transfers or the fundamental requirements or biases and potentials for these transfers.

Could you expand on that for me please?

I am sorry for the poor question.

Ra: I am Ra. We would take a moment to state in reply to a previous comment that we shall answer each query whether or not it has been previously covered for not to do so would be to baffle the flow of quite another transfer of energy.

To respond to your query we firstly wish to agree with your supposition that the subject you now query upon is a large one, for in it lies an entire system of opening the gateway to intelligent infinity.

You may see that some information is necessarily shrouded in mystery by our desire to preserve the free will of the adept.

The great key to blue, indigo, and finally, that great capital of the column of sexual energy transfer, violet energy, transfers,
is the metaphysical bond or distortion which has the name among your peoples of unconditional love.

In the blue-ray energy transfer
the quality of this love is refined in the fire of honest communication and clarity; this, shall we say, normally speaking in general, takes a substantial portion of your space/time to accomplish although there are instances of matings so well refined in previous incarnations and so well remembered that the blue-ray may be penetrated at once.

This energy transfer is of great benefit to the seeker in that all communication from this seeker is, thereby, refined and the eyes of honesty and clarity look upon a new world.

Such is the nature of blue-ray energy and such is one mechanism of potentiating and crystallizing it.

As we approach indigo-ray transfer
we find ourselves in a shadowland.
We cannot give you information straight out or plain, for this is seen by us to be an infringement.

We cannot speak at all of violet ray transfer
as we do not, again, desire to break the Law of Confusion.

We may say that these jewels, though dearly bought,
are beyond price for the seeker and might suggest that just as each awareness is arrived at through a process of analysis, synthesis, and inspiration, so should the seeker approach its mate and evaluate each experience, seeking the jewel.

Questioner: Is there any way to tell which ray the transfer was for an individual after the experience?

Ra: I am Ra. There is only a subjective yardstick or measure of such.

If the energies have flowed so that love is made whole,
green-ray transfer has taken place.

If, by the same entities’ exchange, greater ease in communication and greater sight has been experienced,
the energy has been refined to the blueray energy center.

If the polarized entities, by this same energy transfer experience, find that the faculties of will and faith have been stimulated,
not for a brief while but for a great duration of what you call time, you may perceive the indigo-ray transfer.

We may not speak of the violet-ray transfer 
except to note that it is an opening to the gateway of intelligent infinity.

Indeed, the indigo-ray transfer is also this but, shall we say, the veil has not yet been lifted.

Questioner: Did most Logoi plan, before the veil, to create a system of random sexual activity or the specific pairing of entities for specific periods of time, or did they have an objective in this respect?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

The harvest from the previous creation was that which included the male and female mind/body/spirit.

It was the intention of the original Logoi that entities mate with one another in any fashion which caused a greater polarization.

It was determined, after observation of the process of many Logoi, that polarization increased many fold if the mating were not indiscriminate.

Consequent Logoi thusly preserved a bias towards the mated relationship which is more characteristic of more disciplined personalities and of what you may call higher densities.

The free will of each entity, however, was always paramount and a bias only could be offered.

May we ask if there may be any brief queries before we leave this instrument?

The Law of One, Book V, Fragment 55
Session 105, October 19, 1983

Questioner: As an example I would like to take the distortion of a disease or bodily malfunction prior to the veil and compare it to that after the veil. 

Let us assume that the conditions that Jim experienced with respect to his kidney malfunction had been an experience that occurred prior to the veil.

Would this experience have occurred prior to the veil? 

Would it have been different? 

And if so, how?

Ra: I am Ra. The anger of separation is impossible without the veil. 

The lack of awareness of the body’s need for liquid is unlikely without the veil.

The decision to contemplate perfection in discipline is quite improbable without the veil.

Questioner: I would like to examine a sample, shall we say, bodily distortion prior to the veil and how it would affect the mind. 

Could Ra give an example of that, please?

Ra: I am Ra. This general area has been covered. 

We shall recapitulate here.

The patterns of illness, diseases, and death are a benignant demesne⁵ within the plan of incarnational experience. 

As such, some healing would occur by decision of mind/body/spirits, and incarnations were experienced with the normal ending of illness to death, accepted as such since without the veil it is clear that the mind/body/spirit continues. 

Thusly, the experiences, both good and bad, or joyful and sad, of the mind/body/spirit before veiling would be pale, without vibrancy or the keen edge of interest that such brings in the post-veiling mind/body/spirit complex.

⁵ demesne: In feudal law, lands held in one’s own power; A manor house and the adjoining lands in the immediate use and occupation of the owner of the estate;

The grounds belonging to any residence, or any landed estate; Any region over which sovereignty is exercised; domain. [< AF demeyne, OF demeine, demaine. Doublet of DOMAIN.]

Questioner: At the end of an incarnation, before veiling, did the entity appear physically to have aged like entities at the end of their incarnation in our present illusion? 

Did the Significator look like that?

Ra: I am Ra. The Significator of Mind, Body, or Spirit is a portion of the archetypical mind and looks as each envisions such to appear. 

The body of mind/body/spirits before veiling showed all the signs of aging which acquaint you now with the process leading to the removal from third-density incarnation of the mind/body/spirit complex. 

It is well to recall that the difference betwixt mind/body/spirits and mind/body/spirit complexes is a forgetting within the deeper mind. 

Physical appearances and surface and instinctual activities are much the same.

The Law of One, Book II, Session 50

Questioner: Can you expand on the concept which is that it is necessary for an entity, during incarnation in the physical as we know it, to become polarized or interact properly with other entities and why this isn’t possible in between incarnations when the entity is aware of what he wants to do. 

Why must he come into an incarnation and lose conscious memory of what he wants to do and then act in a way in which he hopes to act?

Ra: I am Ra.

Let us give the example of the man who sees all the poker hands.
He then knows the game.
It is but child’s play to gamble, for it is no risk.
The other hands are known.

The possibilities are known and the hand will be played correctly but with no interest. 

In time/space and in the true color green density, the hands of all are open to the eye.

The thoughts, the feelings, the troubles, all these may be seen. 

There is no deception and no desire for deception.

Thus much may be accomplished in harmony but the mind/body/spirit gains little polarity from this interaction.

Let us re-examine this metaphor and multiply it into the longest poker game you can imagine, a lifetime.

The cards are love, dislike, limitation, unhappiness, pleasure, etc.

They are dealt and re-dealt and re-dealt continuously.

You may, during this incarnation begin—and we stress begin—to know your own cards.
You may begin to find the love within you.
You may begin to balance your pleasure,
your limitations, etc.

However, your only indication of other-selves’ cards is to look into the eyes. 

You cannot remember your hand, their hands, perhaps even the rules of this game.

This game can only be won by those who lose their cards in the melting influence of love, can only be won by those who lay their pleasures, their limitations, their all upon the table face up and say inwardly:

“All, all of you players, each other-self, whatever your hand, I love you.”

This is the game:
to know,
to accept,
to forgive,
to balance, and
to open the self in love.

This cannot be done without the forgetting, for it would carry no weight in the life of the mind/body/spirit being-ness totality. 

Is there a brief query before we leave this instrument?

The Law of One, Book III, Session 71

Questioner: Is the process in positive time/space identical with the process in negative time/space for this healing?

Ra: I am Ra. The process in space/time of the forgiveness and acceptance is much like that in time/space in that the qualities of the process are analogous. 

However, 

while in space/time 
it is not possible to determine the course of events beyond the incarnation but only to correct present imbalances. 

In time/space, upon the other hand, 
it is not possible to correct any unbalanced actions but rather to perceive the imbalances and thusly forgive the self for that which is.

The decisions then are made to set up the possibility/probabilities of correcting these imbalances in what you call future space/time experiences.

The advantage of time/space 
is that of the fluidity of the grand overview.

The advantage of space/time 
is that, working in darkness with a tiny candle, one may correct imbalances.

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 85

Questioner: What changes of functions of the mind/body/spirits were most effective in producing the evolution desired due to the veiling process?

Ra: I am Ra. We are having difficulty retaining clear channel through this instrument.

It has a safe margin of transferred energy but is experiencing pain flares.

May we ask that you repeat the query as we have better channel now.

Questioner: After the veiling process certain veiled functions or activities must have been paramount in creating evolution in the desired polarized directions.

I was just wondering which of these had the greatest effect on polarization?

Ra: I am Ra. The most effectual veiling was that of the mind.

Questioner: I would like to carry that on to find out what specific functions of the mind were most effectual and the three or four most effective changes brought about to create the polarization.

Ra: I am Ra. This is an interesting query.

The primary veiling was of such significance that it may be seen to be analogous to the mantling of the Earth over all the jewels within the Earth’s crust; whereas previously all facets of the Creator were consciously known.

After the veiling, almost no facets of the Creator were known to the mind.

Almost all was buried beneath the veil.

If one were to attempt to list those functions of mind most significant in that they might be of aid in polarization, one would need to begin with the faculty of visioning, envisioning, or far-seeing.

Without the veil the mind was not caught in your illusory time.

With the veil space/time is the only obvious possibility for experience.

Also upon the list of significant veiled functions of the mind would be that of dreaming.

The so-called dreaming contains a great deal which, if made available to the conscious mind and used, shall aid it in polarization to a great extent.

The third function of the mind which is significant and which has been veiled is that of the knowing of the body.

The knowledge of and control over the body, having been lost to a great extent in the veiling process, is thusly lost from the experience of the seeker.

Its knowledge before the veiling is of small use.

Its knowledge after the veiling, and in the face of what is now a dense illusion of separation of body complex from mind complex, is quite significant.

Perhaps the most important and significant function that occurred due to the veiling of the mind from itself is not in itself a function of mind but rather is a product of the potential created by this veiling.

This is the faculty of will or pure desire.

We may ask for brief queries at this time.

Although there is energy remaining for this working, we are reluctant to continue this contact, experiencing continual variations due to pain flares, as you call this distortion.

Although we are unaware of any misgiven material we are aware that there have been several points during which our channel was less than optimal.

This instrument is most faithful but we do not wish to misuse this instrument.

Please query as you will.

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 86

Questioner: In the last session you had mentioned the properties precipitating from the veiling of the mind; the first being envisioning or farseeing.

Would you explain the meaning of that?

Ra: I am Ra. Your language is not overstrewn with non-emotional terms for the functional qualities of what is now termed unconscious mind. 

The nature of mind is something which we have requested that you ponder.

However, it is, shall we say, clear enough to the casual observer that we may share some thoughts with you without infringing upon your free learn/teaching experiences.

The nature of the unconscious is of the nature of concept rather than word.

Consequently, before the veiling the use of the deeper mind was that of the use of unspoken concept. 

You may consider the emotive and connotative aspects of a melody. 

One could call out, in some stylized fashion, the terms for the notes of the melody. 

One could say, quarter note A, quarter note A, quarter note A, whole note F. 

This bears little resemblance to the beginning of the melody of one of your composer’s most influential melodies, that known to you as a symbol of victory.

This is the nature of the deeper mind. 

There are only stylized methods with which to discuss its functions. 

Thusly our descriptions of this portion of the mind, as well as the same portions of body and spirit, were given terms such as “far-seeing,” indicating that the nature of penetration of the veiled portion of the mind may be likened unto the journey too rich and exotic to contemplate adequate describing thereof.

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 81

Questioner: You stated earlier that toward the center of this galaxy is what, to use a poor term, you could call the older portion where you would find no service-to-self polarization. 

Am I correct in assuming that this is true with the other galaxies with which Wanderers from Ra have experience? 

At the center of these galaxies only the service-to-others polarity exists and the experiment started farther out toward the rim of the galaxy?

Ra: I am Ra. Various Logoi and sub-Logoi had various methods of arriving at the discovery of the efficiency of free will in intensifying the experience of the Creator by the Creator. 

However, in each case this has been a pattern.

Questioner: You mean then that the pattern is that the service-to-self polarization appeared farther out from the center of the galactic spiral?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 82

Questioner: I would like to consider the condition at a time or position just prior to the beginning of this octave of experience. 

I am assuming that, just prior to the beginning of this octave, intelligent infinity had created and already experienced one or more previous octaves. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You assume correctly. 

However, the phrase would more informatively read, infinite intelligence had experienced previous octaves.

Questioner: Does Ra have any knowledge of the number of previous octaves; if so, how many?

Ra: I am Ra. As far as we are aware we are in an infinite creation. 

There is no counting.

Questioner: That’s what I thought you might say. 

Am I correct in assuming that at the beginning of this octave, out of what I would call a void of space, seeds of an infinite number of galactic systems such as the Milky Way Galaxy appeared and grew in spiral fashion simultaneously?

Ra: I am Ra. There are duple areas of potential confusion. 

Firstly, let us say that the basic concept is reasonably well-stated. 

Now we address the confusions. 

The nature of true simultaneity is such that, indeed, all is simultaneous. 

However, in your modes of perception you would perhaps more properly view the seeding of the creation as that of growth from the center or core outward. 

The second confusion lies in the term, ‘void’. 

We would substitute the noun, ‘plenum’.

Questioner: Then, if I were observing the beginning of the octave at that time through a telescope, say from this position, would I see the center of many, many galaxies appearing and each of them then spreading outward in a spiraling fashion over what we would consider billions of years, but the spirals spreading outward in approximately what we would consider the same rate so that all these galaxies began as the first speck of light at the same time and then spread out at roughly the same rate? 

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The query has confusing elements. 

There is a center to infinity. 

From this center all spreads. 

Therefore, 

there are centers to the creation, 
to the galaxies, 
to star systems, 
to planetary systems, and 
to consciousness. 

In each case you may see growth from the center outward. 

Thus you may see your query as being over-general in concept.

Questioner: Considering only our Milky Way Galaxy at its beginnings, I will assume that the first occurrence that we could find with our physical apparatus was the appearance of a star of the nature of our sun. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. 

In the case of the galactic systems 
the first manifestation of the Logos is a cluster of central systems which generate the outward swirling energies producing, in their turn, further energy centers for the Logos or what you would call stars.

Questioner: Are these central original creations or clusters what we call stars?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. 

However, the closer to the, shall we say, beginning of the manifestation of the Logos the star is, the more it partakes in the one original thought.

Questioner: Why does this partaking in the original thought have a gradient radially outward? 

That’s the way I understand your statement.

Ra: I am Ra. This is the plan of the one infinite Creator. 

The One Original Thought is the harvest of all previous, if you would use this term, experience of the Creator by the Creator. 

As It decides to know Itself It generates Itself, into that plenum full of the glory and the power of the one infinite Creator which is manifested to your perceptions as space or outer space. 

Each generation of this knowing begets a knowing which has the capacity, through free will, to choose methods of knowing Itself. 

Therefore, gradually, step by step, the Creator becomes that which may know Itself, and the portions of the Creator partake less purely in the power of the original word or thought. 

The Creator does not properly create as much as It experiences Itself.

Questioner: What was the form, condition, or experience of the first division of consciousness that occurred at the beginning of this octave at the beginning of this galactic experience?

Ra: I am Ra. We touch upon previous material. 

The harvest of the previous octave, was the Creator of Love manifested in mind, body, and spirit. 

This form of the Creator experiencing Itself may perhaps be said to be the first division.

Questioner: I was interested specifically in how this very first division showed up in this octave.

I was interested to know if it made the transition through first, second, third, fourth, etc. densities?

I would like to take the first mind/body/spirit complexes and trace their experience from the very start to the present so that I could better understand the condition that we are in now by comparing it with this original growth.

Could you please tell me precisely how this came about as to the formation of the planets and growth through the densities, if that is the way it happened, please?

Ra: I am Ra. Your queries seem more confused than your basic mental distortions in this area.

Let us speak in general and perhaps you may find a less confused and more simple method of eliciting information in this area.

A very great deal of creation was manifested without the use of the concepts involved in consciousness, as you know it.

The creation itself is a form of consciousness which is unified, the Logos being the one great heart of creation.

The process of evolution through this period, which may be seen to be timeless, is most valuable to take into consideration, for it is against the background of this essential unity of the fabric of creation that we find the ultimate development of the Logoi which chose to use that portion of the harvested consciousness of the Creator to move forward with the process of knowledge of self.

As it had been found to be efficient to use the various densities, which are fixed in each octave, in order to create conditions in which self-conscious sub-Logoi could exist, this was carried out throughout the growing flower-strewn field, as your simile suggests, of the one infinite creation.

The first beings of mind, body, and spirit were not complex.

The experience of mind/body/spirits at the beginning of this octave of experience was singular.

There was no third-density forgetting.

There was no veil.

The lessons of third density are predestined by the very nature of the vibratory rates experienced during this particular density and by the nature of the quantum jump to the vibratory experiences of fourth density.

Questioner: Am I correct, then, in assuming the first mind/body/spirit experiences, as this galaxy progressed in growth, were those that moved through the densities; that is, the process we have discussed coming out of second density.

For instance, let us take a particular planet, one of the very early planets formed near the center of the galaxy.

I will assume that the planet solidified during the first density, that life appeared in second density, and that  all of the mind/body/spirit complexes of third density progressed out of second-density on that planet and evolved in third density.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is hypothetically correct.

Questioner: Did this in fact happen on some of the planets or on a large percentage of the planets near the center of this galaxy in this way?

Ra: I am Ra. Our knowledge is limited.

We know of the beginning but cannot asseverate to the precise experiences of those things occurring before us.

You know the nature of historical teaching.

At our level of learn/teaching we may expect little distortion.

However, we cannot, with surety, say there is no distortion as we speak of specific occurrences of which we were not consciously a part.

It is our understanding that your supposition is correct.

Thus we so hypothesize.

Questioner: Specifically, I am trying to grasp an understanding of the process of experience in third density before the veil so that I can better understand the present process.

As I understand, it the mind/body/spirits went through the process of what we call physical incarnation in this density but there was no forgetting.

What was the benefit or purpose of the physical incarnation when there was no forgetting?

Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of incarnation in third density is to learn the ways of love.

Questioner: I guess I didn’t state that exactly right.

What I mean is, since there was no forgetting, since the mind/body/spirits had, in what we call the physical incarnation, their full consciousness, they knew the same thing that they would know while not in the physical incarnation.

What was the mechanism of teaching that taught the ways of love in the third-density physical prior to the forgetting process?

Ra: I am Ra. We ask your permission to answer this query in an oblique fashion as we perceive an area in which we might be of aid.

Questioner: Certainly.

Ra: I am Ra. Your queries seem to be pursuing the possibility/probability that the mechanisms of experience in third density are different if a mind/body/spirit is attempting them rather than a mind/body/spirit complex.

The nature of third density is constant.

Its ways are to be learned the same now and ever.

Thusly, no matter what form the entity facing these lessons, the lessons and mechanisms are the same.

The Creator will learn from Itself.

Each entity has unmanifest portions of learning and, most importantly, learning which is involved with other-selves.

Questioner: Then prior to the forgetting process there was no concept of anything but service-to-others polarization.

What sort of societies and experiences in third-density were created and evolved in this condition?

Ra: I am Ra. It is our perception that such conditions created the situation of a most pallid experiential nexus in which lessons were garnered with the relative speed of the turtle to the cheetah.

Questioner: Did such societies evolve with technologies of a complex nature, or did they remain quite simple?

Can you give me a general idea of the evolvement that would be a function of what we would call intellectual activity?

Ra: I am Ra. There is infinite diversity in societies under any circumstances.

There were many highly technologically advanced societies which grew due to the ease of producing any desired result.

When one dwells within what might be seen to be a state of constant potential inspiration, that which even the most highly sophisticated, in your terms, societal structure lacked, given the non-complex nature of its entities, was what you might call will or, to use a more plebeian term, gusto, or élan vital.

Questioner: Did such technological societies evolve travel through what we call space to other planets or other planetary systems?

Did some of them do this?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: Then even though, from our point of view, there was great evolutionary experience it was deemed at some point by the evolving Logos that an experiment to create a greater experience was appropriate. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct and may benefit from comment.

The Logos is aware of the nature of the third-density requirement for what you have called graduation.

All the previous, if you would use this term, experiments, although resulting in many experiences, lacked what was considered the crucial ingredient; that is, polarization.

There was little enough tendency for experience to polarize entities that entities repeated habitually the third-density cycles many times over.

It was desired that the potential for polarization be made more available.

Questioner: Then since the only possibility at this particular time, as I see it, was a polarization for service to others, I must assume from what you said that even though all were aware of this service-to-others necessity they were unable to achieve it.

What was the configuration of mind of the mind/body/spirits at that time?

Why did they have such a difficult time serving others to the extent necessary for graduation since this was the only polarity possible?

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the tendency of those who are divinely happy, as you call this distortion, to have little urge to alter or better their condition.

Such is the result of the mind/body/spirit which is not complex.

There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self.

The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord.

The security is total.

Therefore,

no love is terribly important;
no pain terribly frightening; 
no effort,

therefore, is made to serve for love or to benefit from fear.

Questioner: It seems that you might make an analogy in our present illusion of those who are born into extreme wealth and security. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Within the strict bounds of the simile, you are perceptive.

Questioner: We have presently an activity between physical incarnations called the healing and review of the incarnation.

Was anything of this nature occurring prior to the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. The inchoate structure of this process was always in place, but where there has been no harm there need be no healing.

This too may be seen to have been of concern to Logoi which were aware that without the need to understand, understanding would forever be left undone.

We ask your forgiveness for the use of this misnomer, but your language has a paucity of sound vibration complexes for this general concept.

Questioner: I don’t grasp too well the condition of incarnation and the time in between incarnations prior to the veil.

I do not understand what was the difference other than the manifestation of the third-density, yellowray body.

Was there any mental difference upon what we call death?

I don’t see the necessity for what we call the review of the incarnation if the consciousness was uninterrupted.

Could you clear up that point for me?

Ra: I am Ra. No portion of the Creator audits the course, to use your experiential terms.

Each incarnation is intended to be a course in the Creator knowing Itself.

A review or, shall we say, to continue the metaphor, each test is an integral portion of the process of the Creator knowing Itself. 

Each incarnation will end with such a test.

This is so that the portion of the Creator may assimilate the experiences in yellow, physical, third density, may evaluate the biases gained, and may then choose, either by means of automatically provided aid or by the self, the conditions of the next incarnation.

Questioner: Before the veil, during the review of the incarnation, were the entities at that time aware that what they were trying to do was sufficiently polarize for graduation?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: Then I am assuming that this awareness was somehow reduced as they went into the yellow ray third-density incarnative state even though there was no veil. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is distinctly incorrect.

Questioner: OK. This is the central important point.

It seems to me that if polarization was the obvious thing that more effort would have been put forward to polarize.

Let me see if I can state this differently.

Before the veil there was an awareness of the need for polarization towards service to others in third density by all entities, whether incarnate in third-density, yellowray bodies or in between incarnations.

I assume, then, that the condition of which we earlier spoke, one of wealth you might say, was present through the entire spectrum of experience whether it might be between incarnations or during incarnations and the entities just simply could not manifest the desire to create this polarization necessary for graduation.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You begin to grasp the situation.

Let us continue the metaphor of the schooling but consider the scholar as being an entity in your younger years of the schooling process.

The entity is fed, clothed, and protected regardless of whether or not the schoolwork is accomplished.

Therefore, the entity does not do the homework but rather enjoys playtime, mealtime, and vacation.

It is not until there is a reason to wish to excel that most entities will attempt to excel.

Questioner: You have stated in a much earlier session that it is necessary to polarize more than 50% service-to-others to be harvestable fourth-density positive.

Was this condition the same at the time before the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

The query is not answered easily, for the concept of service to self did not hold sway previous to what we have been calling the veiling process.

The necessity for graduation to fourth density is an ability to use, welcome, and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the one infinite Creator.

In your own terms at your space/time nexus
this ability may be measured by your previously stated percentages of service.

Prior to the veiling process
the measurement would be that of an entity walking up a set of your stairs, each of which was imbued with a certain quality of light.

The stair upon which an entity stopped would be either third-density light or fourth-density light.

Between the two stairs lies the threshold.

To cross that threshold is difficult.

There is resistance at the edge, shall we say, of each density.

The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density.

Those entities which do not do their homework, be they ever so amiable, shall not cross.

It was this situation which faced the Logoi prior to the veiling process being introduced into the experiential continuum of third density.

May we ask if there are any brief queries at this working?

The Law of One, Book IV, Session 83

Questioner: What was the mechanism of the very first veiling process?

I don’t know if you can answer that.

Would you try to answer that?

Ra: I am Ra. The mechanism of the veiling between the conscious and unconscious portions of the mind was a declaration that the mind was complex.

This, in turn, caused the body and the spirit to become complex.

Questioner: Would you give me an example of a complex activity of the body that we have now and how it was not complex prior to the veil?

Ra: I am Ra.

Prior to the great experiment a mind/body/spirit was capable of controlling
the pressure of blood in the veins,
the beating of the organ you call the heart,
the intensity of the sensation known to you as pain,
and all the functions now understood to be involuntary or unconscious.

Questioner: When the veiling process originally took place, then, it seems that the Logos must have had a list of those functions that would become unconscious and those that would remain consciously controlled.

I am assuming that if this occurred there was good reason for these divisions.

Am I in any way correct on this?

Ra: I am Ra. No.

Questioner: Would you correct me, please?

Ra: I am Ra. There were many experiments whereby various of the functions or distortions of the body complex were veiled and others not.

A large number of these experiments resulted in nonviable body complexes or those only marginally viable.

For instance, it is not a survival-oriented mechanism for the nerve receptors to blank out unconsciously any distortions towards pain.

Questioner: Before the veil the mind could blank out pain.

I assume then, that the function of the pain at that time was to signal the body to assume a different configuration so that the source of the pain would leave, and then the pain could be eliminated mentally.

Is that correct, and was there another function for the pain prior to the veiling?

Ra: I am Ra. Your assumption is correct.

The function of pain at that time was as the warning of the fire alarm to those not smelling the smoke.

Questioner: Then let’s say that an entity at that time burned its hand due to carelessness.

It would immediately remove its hand from the burning object and then, in order to not feel the pain any more, its mind would cut the pain off until healing had taken place. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: We would look at this in our present illusion as an elimination of a certain amount of catalyst that would produce an acceleration in our evolution. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The attitude towards pain varies from mind/body/ spirit complex to mind/body/spirit complex.

Your verbalization of attitude towards the distortion known as pain is one productive of helpful distortions as regards the process of evolution.

Questioner: What I was trying to indicate was that the plan of the Logos in veiling the conscious from the unconscious mind in such a way that pain could not so easily be controlled would have created a system of catalyst that was not previously usable.

Is this generally correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

Questioner: In some cases it seems that this use of catalyst is almost in a runaway condition for some entities in that they are experiencing much more pain than they can make good use of as far as catalytic nature would be considered.

Could you comment on that?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last query of this working of a full length.

You may see, in some cases, an entity which, either by preincarnative choice or by constant reprogramming while in incarnation, has developed an esurient program of catalyst.

Such an entity is quite desirous of using the catalyst and has determined to its own satisfaction that what you may call the large board needs to be applied to the forehead in order to obtain the attention of the self.

In these cases it may indeed seem a great waste of the catalyst of pain and a distortion towards feeling the tragedy of so much pain may be experienced by the other-self.

However, it is well to hope that the other-self is grasping that which it has gone to some trouble to offer itself; that is, the catalyst which it desires to use for the purpose of evolution.

May we ask if there are any brief queries at this time?

The Law of One, Book V, Fragment 55

Questioner: As an example I would like to take the distortion of a disease or bodily malfunction prior to the veil and compare it to that after the veil. 

Let us assume that the conditions that Jim experienced with respect to his kidney malfunction had been an experience that occurred prior to the veil.

Would this experience have occurred prior to the veil? 

Would it have been different? 

And if so, how?

Ra: I am Ra. The anger of separation is impossible without the veil. 

The lack of awareness of the body’s need for liquid is unlikely without the veil.

The decision to contemplate perfection in discipline is quite improbable without the veil.

Questioner: I would like to examine a sample, shall we say, bodily distortion prior to the veil and how it would affect the mind. 

Could Ra give an example of that, please?

Ra: I am Ra. This general area has been covered. 

We shall recapitulate here.

The patterns of illness, diseases, and death are a benignant demesne⁵ within the plan of incarnational experience. 

As such, some healing would occur by decision of mind/body/spirits, and incarnations were experienced with the normal ending of illness to death, accepted as such since without the veil it is clear that the mind/body/spirit continues. 

Thusly, the experiences, both good and bad, or joyful and sad, of the mind/body/spirit before veiling would be pale, without vibrancy or the keen edge of interest that such brings in the post-veiling mind/body/spirit complex.

⁵ demesne: In feudal law, lands held in one’s own power; A manor house and the adjoining lands in the immediate use and occupation of the owner of the estate;

The grounds belonging to any residence, or any landed estate; Any region over which sovereignty is exercised; domain. [< AF demeyne, OF demeine, demaine. Doublet of DOMAIN.]